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YouTube - 03 Cobra vs 03 Z06

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Cool. Theres an 03 cobra coupe in northern california that we've been trying to setup for one for awhile also. Just time on other projects has made it impossible to do. I'll post some videos of that if it ever happens too.

blower plus mods beats a n/a engine, stock. Awesome, I was expecting different results!

Well, it was designed for a boosted application. When you put blowers on stock LS1's they are a joke.

good run in the cobra man I love the video gave it 5 stars

9.80's are a joke?

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread...light=stock+ls1

Dont try to use a timebomb engine ricer.

ok.. ok.. but 10.50's all day is fine

They are too high on compression. They love nitrous and can go as fast on the bottle as they can on blower for several thousand less is all. Like the 700rwhp one my buddy had. Then 650 the next pass. Then 600 the next. lol

Yeah you're right...those ZR1's are such a joke...

I think most ppl know you need to lower compression when using fi

You mean the redesigned ZR1 that does not have 10:1CR? The engine that was built for a boosted application unlike the previous ones.

Yes I do mean that one. Redesigned being the key word here, just like when they lower the CR (redesign!) in a LS1, LS2, etc etc when someone s/c them. Well any one that would be smart enough to do it, which most ppl do add h/c.

You argued my point as if this was a stock car racing another stock car. It isn't.

Well we have to give credit to the oval snake it did the trick and pulled fair and square!!

Great vid BTW very well done.

Hi FAsnakes -

Nice runs!

That is about right - it takes quite a bit more hp to overcome the wieght disadvantage, but those cobra's will run!

Thank for posting.

best regards -

mqqn

What is this guy "Aint Hot" smoking? Whatever it is, it's definitely not legal.

Im smoking common sense. Did you find something untrue about my statement? LSX engines are not built to handle high cylinder pressures like the 281ci. Cobra engines are. I really hope your statement is based on something outside of tunnel vision or I would be relatively dissapointed that I responded to it.

"When you put blowers on stock LS1's they are a joke."


Lol, common sense, huh?? The fact is, the above statement is moronic. Ok, first off, in this video we are talking about an LS6 not an LS1, but regardless, Blown LSx's are far from being a joke. They just need to be setup properly...like anything else. Try telling the above statement to any of the top LSx tuners in the country about their blower packages...and see how they laugh in your face.

Here, you can start here, call these guys up and tell them this package is a "joke":

http://www.thevettedoctors.com/05_packages_C5_SCrx.shtml

And just as one real world example I know a local guy here with an 01 Z06 with a Maggie AND nitrous...car has over 100k miles and no problems. Tell him his car is a "joke" too.

Dumbass.

What the hell does it matter if its an LS1 or an LS6? They both have the same pistons inside. You show me one tuner that will say the LS1 is built for boost . Engines built to withstand the higher cylinder pressures associated with a power adder NEVER have hyper pistons inside them. You can put a blower on anything and get more from it. But you cannot put any real boost to it. So how much boost is your buddys car pushing again? Not very much at all is the answer. Big deal, my friend had a magnusson on his C5 pushing a whopping 6psi too. I have a vortech sitting in my garage too. That doesnt change the fact that its not a blower motor. You know nothing at all about what you are arguing yet you justify it by jumping on a soapbox and saying, "my buddy has a blown corvette"....which once again, has no relevance to what was said. I like the cars its just too bad the owners are so ignorant.

You're a complete dumbass. Where did I say the LSx engines are perfect or even great for boost applications? Obviously they don't come from the factory built specifically for boost. What I am arguing against is your comment that they are "a joke"...which is ridiculous.

You think all these people that have spent $6k - $10k on these S/C packages for their stock LSx's are jokers? And the tuners who offer these packages are swindlers?? Again, no, the LSx's are obviously not purpose built for a S/C from the factory but in these applications they can still be setup nicely giving results that are FAR FROM BEING A "JOKE."

Here, read this quote from the Z06vette forum

"if I were doing an S/C I'd look to the ECS Novi 2000 kit for your stock bottom end C5-Z. They have done quite a bit of R&D on their kit to make it a "plug and play" application that routinely makes 550 rwhp at low boost on stock bottom ended LS6 motors. If you go to the Corvette Forum you'll see many folks running their kits...LS1's, LS2's, LS3's, LS6's and LS7's. In fact, their first ever Novi 2000 install was done on a stock bottom ended LS1 auto coupe almost 3 years ago. That car has been flogged on the drag strip on probably 150 passes and late last year it went 9.8@138 at E'town....and yes, it still had all the original bottom end parts with the exception of an ECS blower cam. Oh, and I forgot to mention...it is a very quiet S/C...so your opponent won't know what hit them."

Doesn't exactly sound like a joke to me!

I completely agree with you on this comment: "I like the cars its just too bad the owners are so ignorant"

You used a company car from a company website and then called someone else a dumbass? They built that car to show the capabilities of the supercharger, damn sure not the bottom end. Why doesnt yours run 9's then if its only a blower and camshaft away? All of my experience comes from a background working with quite a few forced induction cars. Yours all comes from internet reading. Talk to me when you actually KNOW what you are saying instead of copying crap you see on the internet. Maybe you should post a topic on your beloved corvetteforum asking them what cylinder pressure or boost is. So far all you have done and will continue to do is link things you find on the internet that have nothing to do with what was said about the ls1 bottom end.

Try to show some tact since you are typing from 3000 miles away instead of standing in front of me. How you type is not how you would talk to me or anyone else in person. You dont have to act like a hero behind your keyboard. So whether you agree with me or not then try to be a man and give the same respect you are getting without your childish namecalling. Besides being foolish, it makes it look like you are too ignorant to carry on any kind of dispute like an adult.

WOW. I can see there is no getting through to you. You're going to go on living in your own bubble of ignorance despite actual facts. So go on with your bad self captain ignoramus...keep spewing your moronic ficticious comments on the internet. If you want to call blown LSx's a "joke"...if that somehow gives you some satisfaction in life...hey all the power to you m8 (no pun intended). I've wasted enough time on you.

As I thought. Your too ignorant to make a logical argument. Facts are that hyper pistons cannot handle high cylinder pressures. Facts are that the only thing you seem to be able to do is spew out things you read, not know, while calling everyone else names like a little child. Those are facts. Talk to me when you can act like a man and not a little boy.

Aint Hot, why do you do this? You know an LSx on moderate boost is still a formidable engine package for a street car. What's the point having a debate like this?

Hyper pistons can handle higher pressure just fine - they can not handle detonation and that is why you need forged pistons. But they can handle properly tuned mild boost pressures just fine. Reputable tuners would not sell kits that they know are going to burn the pistons. They would be putting themselves out of business.

If the tuners are getting 9's and 10's reliably with these motors time after time, there is nothing to argue.

DarthVetter, Maybe you'll have better luck talking sense into him than I did, but I'm guessing there is no getting through to this bonehead.

K-man, don't pay A'H too much attention - he does this just to aggravate folks. He has a nice Z06 that clearly betrays where his heart is. Nobody forced him to buy that Z (other than FORD Motor Company with their lack of viable alternatives! ) .

Mr. Breeze,

I suggest you read this thread of Aint Hot

http://www.corvettekillstories.com/forum/i...ic=7602&hl=

LOL!

Exactly!

I'll admit Im a turncoat on fords. Im actually even starting to like the ass spewing sound that comes from lsx motors. But when I think of boost, I think of 15psi+ capable without praying for a miracle. Ive caught myself looking at C4's too lately. I only bought a blower to see if they could do a burnout.

Hmm, I do not know about the LT1's so much, but the L98 was designed specifically to do burn outs below 1500 RPM.

LMAO. Ain't Hot definitely has my vote for ACOTY.


(Ass-Clown Of The Year).

And you have mine for ethug of the year. Big talk backed up with....internet research and zero knowledge of anything outside of inserting your head into your ass and making a post.

Aint hot, you do realize that everyone is kinda giggling at you like the town retard right? I'm just trying to help out a less fortunate individual is all....

Why would they be laughing at me? Your the one arguing that lsx engines are great blower motors. If thats not the dumbest shit Ive ever heard, I dont know what is. You can always tell how foolish someone is when they open their mouth. And you speak volumes my man. Go read some more then come back with more ignorance junior. I'll be here.

lol, you get more epic-fail with every post. If you were actually reading you would see in one of my previous posts that I specifically said that I never said they were "great" for a blower. OBVIOUSLY THEY ARE NOT SETUP FROM THE FACTORY FOR A BLOWER. On the other hand with a blower at low boost and properly tuned they are FAR FROM BEING a "JOKE". How many times do I have to say this?? Are you really this dumb or are you joking around?

Ive been on this site for years. I always talk shit about corvettes every chance I get. Use your head genious. Why would I have purchased a blower for a damn Z06 if I thought I wasnt getting my moneys worth. I bought that kit and that car long before we started this. Do a post search so you dont look so dumb next time.

So everytime somebody makes moronic comments, I should do a search on them? LOL. And so you even own a Z06 that you bought a blower for...wow...that just makes all your babbling look even more retarded.

Your absolutely hopeless. I bought a Z06 over a year ago. I was buying a blower before I ever bothered posting anything on this topic. If its not too much for your peabrain, try to figure out if maybe I was just talking shit about them not running good on boost. I say "think" but its obvious thats well beyond your means. It was actually posted in this topic twice that I have a Z06 and a blower. Even another topic showing the installation yesterday. But in your quest to insert your foot into your mouth with every post I can see how you missed it each time. A lot of things seem to go over your head.

This thread has lost its purpose long ago.

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Or perhaps just let it go..